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Oh, it's 3am. Time for another post-I-really-shouldn't-make-but-screw-it. SoS update to come later.

I suppose I need a little advice. I'm wondering if I should make a fictionkin (otakukin >_>) filter for my journal. Now, see, I haven't in the past because I rarely talk about fic'kin stuff. What you see is what you get - I never lock my posts unless I'm sharing personal contact details etc. So yeah, I just really don't talk about fic'kin related things because I guess mostly there's no reason to. It's not that important. But then occasionally I get the urge to make a post dealing with fic'kin stuff. Usually after something has inspired me or impressed something upon me and I want to share my thoughts and feelings from a fic'kin perspective rather than in 3rd person. But I admit that most often these days I just don't type it up because I'm nervous of a few things.

Firstly, I don't like to make my friendslist uncomfortable >.> I know many of you already think I'm batshit insane for various reasons, and so yeah XD

Secondly, I'm, well, more well-known now than I used to be when I posted more openly about fic'kin stuff ^^; I don't mean that in an egotistical way at all. I'm not suddenly super-popular or anything, but I am quite well known in certain online circles just because I'm a moderator at =SSMB= or a Summer of Sonic staffer or I just post a lot in various Sonic-themed places ^^; So, people have friended me from a variety of different sources. Do I really want to scare all of them off? *Chin scratch* Hmmm...

Thirdly, naturally I know that posting said 'kin stuff makes my journal an automatic troll magnet. In the absence of batshit posts, troll comments have died down quite significantly. This is good. While trolls don't bother me on a personal level, they do disrupt the flow of things in comments, and I hate to cause a scene. I also don't want any of my friends to get trolled for sticking up for, or merely associating with, me XD;

But even with all that said and done, I'm not one to hide. While I naturally do question my crazy beliefs and accept that they are gonna sound crazy and may well be easily explained away, I'm not ashamed of them. I'm neither proud nor ashamed... it's just one part of me. I don't feel like I should have to keep that back if I wanna use my journal to occasionally talk about it.

So I suppose the question is, should I make a filter for fic'kin entries? Would you be bothered by it if I posted them openly? Did you even know I identify as fic'kin? XD And if I did make a filter, would you want to be on it?

(BTW, for anyone going "WTF?", an explanation: Fic'kin believe that the worlds portrayed in fictional media are real and that they are, or were, someone from that world. Due to this level of insanity, they are looked down upon even by otherkin :< REPRESENT. [And I'm normally so logical...])

Date: 2009-09-01 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainsingingwolf.livejournal.com
I dunno. It's kinda up to you. I use filters to make myself feel comfortable, and it's not often that I'll deny somebody access to a filter.

Date: 2009-09-01 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Yeah, it is up to me... but even if it's my journal, it's my friendslist who read it, so I don't wanna do anything that makes them feel awkward ^^;

Date: 2009-09-01 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-terrible.livejournal.com
You can make the filter if you want to, but I don't find it necessary. Nothing you've posted has bothered me.

Date: 2009-09-01 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Glad to hear it :)

Date: 2009-09-01 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
If you do make the filter, and you're comfortable having me on it, I'd like to be on it.

That being said...I don't think anyone who knows you well(Or has known you for a long time) will be scared off by your beliefs. And trolls...are, well, trolls. What they do is ultimately not something you need to be concerned with.

Date: 2009-09-01 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
XD Of course you'd be on the filter, Blazey. Why on Earth (or Mobius O.o) would I block a fellow Sonicverse-kin from seeing my kin-related entries?

Also, you are right :) Trolls aren't my main concern; I just don't want to turn my LJ into a drama magnet.

Date: 2009-09-01 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
XD Of course you'd be on the filter, Blazey. Why on Earth (or Mobius O.o) would I block a fellow Sonicverse-kin from seeing my kin-related entries?

Heh, good point, in hindsight, Mr. Chosen One.^^

But yeah...In my opinion at least, I don't think you'll turn your LJ into a drama magnet by leaving the entries public. I mean, I can certainly understand if you still want to be cautious.^_~ But for everything I've said, I'm only a small footnote on the internet. I may think lots of strange things, but any drama I've created has been minor and short lived, since I'm usually not too defensive about what I believe.

I haven't seen you being defensive about your kinness, most of the time, and in the short times you have been, you've been pretty playful and humorous about it. So, I don't feel you're in any danger of becoming a spectacularly infamous lolcow at all.^^

Date: 2009-09-01 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Hee... Chosen One :3 I wish.

Right, well, I guess I'm probably leaving my entries public, then! But if I do make a filter at any time, you'll definitely be on it :)

Date: 2009-09-01 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
Thank you Tails. You're a dear.

Date: 2009-09-01 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
I am? I thought I was a fox :P

Date: 2009-09-01 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
You're punny.XD It's like we're in the really early Archie issues where Sally was pink.XD

Date: 2009-09-01 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
^^; Don't get me started. I love puns... especially really really bad ones :P

Eeesh... pink Sally ^^;; Not her best look.

Date: 2009-09-01 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
You have an interesting sense of humor.^^

I can just see Sally walking into a room all pink, with everyone staring at her, then asking what everyone's freaking out about.XD

Date: 2009-09-01 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
I have an annoying sense of humour XD

If that ever happened, I'd have to assume that either she fell in a barrel of pink paint, or Amy exploded on her O.o

Date: 2009-09-01 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
Lol, Amy-splosion!XD

Oddly enough, Archie Sally's her color changes ended up being explained by falling into a vat of chemicals. So you're not too far off.XD

Date: 2009-09-01 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Well, that's better than falling into a vat of Amy, I guess n.n;;

Date: 2009-09-01 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Lol. Archie Sonic's writers always had this peculiar habit of writing in an explanation for all of the lapses in judgment or continuity. I recall a series of interviews with one of the main writers of early (I think) Archie, where he'd go through each comic and humorously point out where the writers were just making stuff up to cover their asses.

Date: 2009-09-01 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
lol, a big tub of Amy juice.XD

Also, at the anon: I think the thought of one of the actual writers of the comic admitting that they were basically just making everything up as they went along is delightfully ironic.^^

Date: 2009-09-01 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tragic-elegance.livejournal.com
I agree with rainsingingwolf; the only time I've used friends-locking is for making myself comfortable.
I wouldn't mind any such posts. It's your journal. ^_^

Date: 2009-09-01 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Thank you, I'm glad you wouldn't mind, but I figured I should ask my friendslist for their input just in case :)

Date: 2009-09-01 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jameythehedgy.livejournal.com
I dunno. It's up to you really. I personally wouldn't want to attract that kind of attention, but who knows who you might meet if you're open about it?
I think I could help you out if the trolls did decide to attack though *evil grin*

Date: 2009-09-01 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
I don't want to attract the attention either, but I also don't want to hide. I don't feel I should have to in my own journal. I'm more concerned about drama than anything else, but the anon below is right; best thing to do is ignore trolls rather than attempt to reason with them. People who are out to offend generally can't be reasoned with.

Date: 2009-09-02 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jameythehedgy.livejournal.com
Don't I know it!

Date: 2009-09-01 04:21 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think you get trolls over your fic'kin beliefs because said trolls are eager for something to feed off of. If you're putting yourself out there, no matter how rationally, they're going to come over in order to get their hate on because it's there for them to access.

Since trolls don't bother you, then, I think the real solution is to just ignore them. Sounds simple, right? Well, it seems every single time a troll comments here, you respond to them and engage their harassment, further making yourself a target all on your own. So if you post publicly and don't wish to make a scene, your only option is to not help them make a scene. If someone else jumps on them, freeze the threads. Don't respond to any troll comments.

Other than that, it's your journal, do what you want. Personally, I'd be very wary of making myself open with beliefs that aren't socially acceptable even in fringe groups, but hell, if nobody opens their mouth and stands up for what they choose to believe, then you can't blame people if they place a stigma on it forever; you only helped that belief by doing nothing to counter-act it.

Date: 2009-09-01 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
You're right. I do tend to attempt to engage trolls rather than just ignoring them. I guess I feel like maybe I can show them that I am actually a reasonable person who isn't defined by my unusual beliefs. But like I said to Jamie above, people who are out to offend are unlikely to allow themselves to be reasoned with.

Thank you for your helpful response :) It's appreciated!

Date: 2009-09-01 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That's the thing with trolls, they want you to argue with them so that they can draw you out and mock you; they enjoy the drama. Even though you have good intentions in trying to show them you're reasonable, all you're doing is letting them get exactly what they set you up for in the first place (giving them a window of attention to spew more abuse).

Now, respectful debate is quite another thing, and though it can quickly turn into a flaming mess, that's not always the same as trolling. If you want to give your side of the story, doing so to people who won't scream at you and behave in an insulting, crazed-chimpanzee-esque manner is usually your best bet--ignoring the outright baiters may actually turn them into this kind if they want acknowledgement from you, so it's win-win.

Date: 2009-09-01 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Heh, you're right (again). I don't care for drama, but I DO like debate and civil discussion. I'm willing to accept flaws in my way of thinking and acknowledge well-made points. But if the person I'm trying to debate with isn't willing to be civil in return, it definitely does just turn into a dramafest and I end up looking just as daft.

I suppose I need to better differentiate between trolls and people who disagree with me but aren't just here to bait me.

Date: 2009-09-01 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ketunhenki.livejournal.com
I've mulled over this question myself. I don't post as many fictionkin-related entries anymore because for me they aren't needed. I always worried about attracting the wrong kind of attention, but my journal doesn't really get near the traffic yours does.

So it's personally up to you. But trolls will always find some reason to start stuff, so in the end it's just how it is. Making people uncomfortable is something we all have to get used to. If everyone is happy, then something is wrong. Sad as it is. XD

Date: 2009-09-01 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Thank you for your perspective :) I suppose that if my friendslist is fine with my posting and trolls are the only downside, then it's a fair trade-off and I should just post openly. Maybe put in an LJ-cut just so that no one HAS to see my crazy ramblings :D

Date: 2009-09-01 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] way-past-cool.livejournal.com
Well all I can say is if you're not bothered by the trolls and what could come of their trolling, then post whatever you want! n.n

Date: 2009-09-01 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Oh mighty King of All Cosmos, You are so wise and learnéd n.n

Date: 2009-09-01 01:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-01 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eileanach.livejournal.com
Well if this is something really personal to you that you don't want to show up on ED or by trolls then I recommend you keep it public but if you are BOTHERED then filter it just let all your friends who want on onto it.

Date: 2009-09-01 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
It's not really personal and I really don't care what ends up on ED XD I've been on there and Something Awful before *shrug* I was more concerned about my friends, to be honest :) But if I did make a filter, would you want on or not?

Date: 2009-09-01 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eileanach.livejournal.com
I would like to be on it. The reason I like you is because of how interesting you are. It'd take a lot from you to make me uncomfortable.

Date: 2009-09-01 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Aww ^^ ::Hugs:: Thank you! <3

Date: 2009-09-01 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eileanach.livejournal.com
*hugs* You are more than welcome.

Date: 2009-09-01 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowdingo.livejournal.com
Hey, it's up to you at the end of the day, Jai. No-one else can make that decision for you. If you're concerned about stuff regarding trolls etc., then you can. Otherwise, do what you want about it. They're your opinions, and you're free to express them however you want.

As for inclusion on a potential filter, I'm not at all bothered if I'm included. Whilst I'm not clued in with fic'kin, I'm willing to respect my friend's opinions and beliefs, and I do find them quite interesting.

So, yeah... ^^;;

Date: 2009-09-01 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
::Nods:: Thanks, Jade :) I would definitely like to include you on the filter if I make it, but I'm likely to just continue to post openly ^^

Date: 2009-09-01 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonskennedy827.livejournal.com
It's entirley up to you if you make the filter, I mean I have a filter on my journal, but that's so I feel comfortable really.

Date: 2009-09-01 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonskennedy827.livejournal.com
Though, if you want to avoid trolls, then I would recommend it, but again it's up to you.

Date: 2009-09-01 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
If I make it, would you want to be on it?

Date: 2009-09-01 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonskennedy827.livejournal.com
Well, I'm not really interested in the subject matter myself, but then I like reading what's on your mind so if ya do then...sure, why not?

Date: 2009-09-01 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Okay, cool :) Don't feel like you ever HAVE to read my inane ramblings XD

Date: 2009-09-02 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixellatedcake.livejournal.com
I'm still not sure on what a fickin is... can you elaborate on it more?

I doubt I'll mind anything, but I'd personally friendslock anything I was unsure about. As a matter of fact, my entire journal is friendslocked cuz of crazy internets ppl.

Date: 2009-09-02 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
I guess the easiest way to sum fic'kin up is that they believe that they ARE (or WERE) someone who is portrayed in fictional media. Or at least that they have lived a life in that fictional world, even if they weren't a main/named character ^^;

Also, thanks for the input :)
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