flyboy_fox: (*Ahem* A little privacy please??)
[personal profile] flyboy_fox
Okay, well, first off I don't really give a shit if anyone crossposts comments made in my posts to Twitter or FB. I don't see why anyone would want to, but it matters not to me. I don't make Friends Only posts except for in extreeeemely rare cases (and at that, mostly just personal memos), so my privacy isn't at stake here. Most people here know my FB account anyway.

HOWEVER. LiveJournal fucked up big time with this. There's people who DO care if their stuff is crossposted. There's people whose privacy WILL be violated and who ARE worried. I've seen a lot of concern on my Friends List and noticed the inevitable "I'm [such-and-such] over at DreamWidth". So... just in case, I'm over at DW now too, under the same name (flyboy_fox). Jut got done importing all my crap over there.

I don't intend to leave LJ unless there really is a mass exodus, but eh. Best to be prepared because LJ sure is screwing up royally with its userbase lately :D

Bleh, rotten mood >_> *Goes to be generally growly and moody at people and things*

Date: 2010-09-04 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com
I can't believe it's NOT an option..luckily my accounts have a berlin wall in between..they should've learnt their lesson soon tho'

Date: 2010-09-04 11:22 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-04 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com
Thanks, i try~

Date: 2010-09-04 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Sorry, I'm slow XD Can't believe what isn't an option?

Date: 2010-09-04 12:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com
To link to FB or not..thru LJ

And added you on FB

Date: 2010-09-04 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fictional-minds.livejournal.com
Yeah, I created an account on DW too. I'm tragedy_virus there - I'll add ya.
I'll still be on LJ probably, but the DW one is... just in case, y'know?

Date: 2010-09-04 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carriepika.livejournal.com
People aren't reading what the repost option actually does. It doesn't repost your journal entry, it reposts only -their- comment. That's all. Someone would have to copy/paste your entire entry into their comment box for it to wind up reposted to their Twitter or Facebook.

The only place LJ has fallen down with it is that you can repost your comment on someone's friend locked entry. Which leaves a link back to the entry which people who aren't on the filter wouldn't be able to see anyways. They'd get the usual 'you do not have permission to view this locked entry' page.

I'm not saying LJ hasn't made some bad mistakes with things lately, they've made a couple of doozies, but people are also blowing this completely and utterly out of proportion without actually reading what the feature does. =\

It's really no more insecure than having people on your filters in the first place. Since, really, what's stopping someone who can read your locked entries from screencapping them and putting them on their FB anyways? |D

Date: 2010-09-05 12:00 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yeah... there has been a lot of ignorant flailing and panic-mongering about this new "feature" with little actual knowledge of what it is.

I can see a legitimate complaint in there somewhere, in the sense that content from a comment may reveal information the OP of a locked post may not want to be available outside of the entry, but ultimately, locking something on LiveJournal is a very basic measure of security at best, and anyone that thinks that what they put on the Internet is in any way truly "private" are sadly fooling themselves.

It takes one malicious person to screencap your entry and publish it anywhere they see fit. The problem, I think, boils down to one scenario needing motivation, and the other only possibly requiring someone to thoughtlessly hit the "repost my comments" button and forgetting about it.

Date: 2010-09-05 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com
Tho' I confess to being somewhat ignorant(due to my FB acc and LJ acc seperated at birth) but I knew about the linkback thing..

But i still say it should be an option

Date: 2010-09-05 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainsingingwolf.livejournal.com
Carrie, have you read about pingbacks? The pingbacks DO in fact contain the text of your entry.

Date: 2010-09-05 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carriepika.livejournal.com
I'm not even sure what pingbacks are. All I've heard people going on about is the 'Repost to' thing involving Facebook and Twitter.

Where's information on these pingback things? I'd like to read about them.

Date: 2010-09-05 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carriepika.livejournal.com
Oh, I very much agree it should be an option! Everything on LJ should be an option, somewhere, to help you control who and what goes on in your little space. That it's not is utterly annoying. =|

Date: 2010-09-05 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carriepika.livejournal.com
The thing about being able to repost things that are said in locked entries is totally a valid complaint. I very much agree with the people saying it shouldn't be like that. That's rather bad form, LJ. =|

But the panic and 'I'm leaving!!11!!one!' is a little much, too. \D

Date: 2010-09-05 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com
No offense..but..I can't help but ask if you're being sarcastic or genuine? ^^||

Date: 2010-09-05 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainsingingwolf.livejournal.com
Cleolinda has been testing the connect features, as well as the pingbacks. Hers is detailed information.

Helens78 on Dreamwidth has a detailed pingback testing report.

Rivkat specifically says that she got a pingback for an entry where s/he was not in the filter, which actually contained the text of the entry. There have been a few other people in comments saying they've received pingbacks in the same manner.
Edited Date: 2010-09-05 04:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-05 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carriepika.livejournal.com
Well... I've read through the two specific entries you linked and they talk a lot about what pingbacks are doing but... there's no explaination of what they actually are?

I'm honestly not sure what they even are, what they do, where you see them, etc... =C

Date: 2010-09-05 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carriepika.livejournal.com
Uhh... genuine? Why would I be sarcastic about features of LJ being options? oO;

Date: 2010-09-05 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djtifabal.livejournal.com
http://www.livejournal.com/manage/settings/?cat=privacy

Scroll down to see it, "Open" and "Disabled" are the options.

Pingbacks in simple : If "Open" is the option you have 'checked', LJ will email you if someone links an entry of yours in their personal LJ/community. That's the gist of it. I personally have them disabled.

ETA; Paidmembers post & a news posts (though the news posts don't say much on them.)
Edited Date: 2010-09-05 09:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-05 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainsingingwolf.livejournal.com
Pingbacks let people know when they link to your profile/LJ/specific entry. People will also know when you linked to them when you use this function. What's happening is that even though people have these turned off, it's still occurring. So people who aren't supposed to be on a particular filter are getting sent emails that contain the journal entries or comments telling them they've been linked by somebody else.

Date: 2010-09-05 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com
^^;;;

I'm sorry it's hard to read sarcasm online but you do have a point then, i concur?...lol

Date: 2010-09-06 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Finally got all the money cleared to send your box (jacket and money bank) but as I'm putting the address label on I realised I don't have your actual name XD Who should this by addressed to? Will be shipped ASAP as soon as I have your name (: (Can email it if you like).

Date: 2010-09-06 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com
Jeyanthi is my aunt's name so that will do, she'll know what to do..

You do have my name..go see that FB acc who added you
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