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I just finished reading Sonic Universe #15. Not much to say about the issue except for one thing. Sally punching Fiona in the gut hard enough to make her double over when Fiona was trying to mess with Tails' head was EPIC. Most awesome thing I've seen Sally do in a while. She just stalks right over and BAM.

Actually, I have to capture the moment for great posterity. Brb!

...



Oh Sally I love you. You're just SO AWESOME ♥ I wanna just give her a big hug now.

I also lol'd at



Boys will be boys. Sally's expression is priceless. Archie, you haven't always been fair to Sally... but you have taken GREAT steps redeeming her here.

Then again, anyone who punches Fiona in the gut with no remorse gets my vote. SALLY FOR UK PRIME MINISTER!

Date: 2010-05-05 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ziggyshadowdust.livejournal.com
Prescott and Brown better watch their backs. XD

Date: 2010-05-05 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eclective.livejournal.com
ahahaha oh Sonic. XD As someone who's really a child of the 16-bit Sonic era and hasn't read much in the way of Sonic comics since then, it kind of made me doubletake to see him referring to anything as "hot". But in an awesome way.

Speechbubble should be an icon.

Date: 2010-05-05 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
You know it! Aww man... it would have been epic to have written her in as a write-in on my ballot paper ♥

Date: 2010-05-05 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Hah... you know, even though I'm not a Sonic/Sally fan, I didn't flinch at him saying that. I actually grinned. I guess I'm just used to him being a doof like that ♥ Oh Sonic indeed.

Date: 2010-05-05 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andysquirrel.livejournal.com
Sonic looks kinda hot bottom left corner!

Date: 2010-05-05 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
I agree! ♥ *Pokes his li'l blue tail >_>*

Date: 2010-05-05 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sletia.livejournal.com
Whoever that Fiona is, she looks good in leather. Then again I usually like the "bad" girls.

Date: 2010-05-05 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] overlord-mordax.livejournal.com
Okay, that was awesome. XD <3

Date: 2010-05-05 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Feel free; you can have her >_>;;

Date: 2010-05-05 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Wasn't it, though? XD! ♥

Date: 2010-05-05 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] way-past-cool.livejournal.com
BOOYAH!! This is why Sally is so awesome. Yeah, she can be a real bitch at times... but MOST of the time she's just kickass and cool. And DAMN did Fiona deserve it. About time!

Date: 2010-05-05 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Those couple of panels are just beautiful. Poetry in motion. Not that I advocate violence... but this IS Fiona we're talking about here >_>

Date: 2010-05-05 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sletia.livejournal.com
Nah, she's too chibi and I'm not that attracted to furries. :P

Date: 2010-05-05 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Good because I would have to hate you if you were crushing on someone I hate SO much XD (j/k... sorta >>)

Date: 2010-05-05 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sletia.livejournal.com
A real bitch? Her wiki page didn't really say much about her.

Date: 2010-05-05 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
"A real bitch" is putting it lightly.

She started out seemingly as a 'good guy', joining the Freedom Fighters. Tails had a crush on her because he had fallen in love with a robot version of her some time ago on a solo mission. Sonic ended up dating her for a while, which was pretty assholish of him really (guy code states you don't date the girl your best friend likes), but so far so average...

Basically also this whole time Fiona was being a bitch to Tails, being really snarky to him behind Sonic's back like a two-faced ho. When Tails caught Sonic and Fiona together and ran off in tears, Fiona stopped Sonic from running after him. Sonic's to blame too. He was weak-willed and stupid. But Fiona was just plain MANIPULATIVE.

But then while this was going on, Scourge (anti-Sonic) arrived and Fiona fell for him and decided she wanted to become 'evil'. So she was cheating on Sonic with Scourge, while at the same time helping him in his plans. Tails caught her with Scourge and alerted Sonic, and all hell broke loose. There was a big brawl, including a lovely moment where Tails was telling Fiona that he believed in her and that she didn't have to defect to evil because he trusted that she was still a good person. She acted all sweet for a for moments to lure him in, and then slapped him hard enough to send him flying. From there on, she was just a pure bitch with absolutely no care for Sonic, Tails, or any of the Freedom Fighters who took her in and helped her when she was in need.

Later on, when Sonic and Tails had a HUGE fight and Tails wound up punching Sonic, Fiona was the catalyst. Apparently Sonic only dated her to help Tails get over her. Some friend :P

But ANYWAY, since then, Fiona was a member of the Suppression Squad led by Scourge until Miles (anti-Tails) led a mutiny against Scourge and took over. Fiona escaped and went back to the Destructix.

That's a long story short, cutting out a huge amount of what happened. But basically in the panels above from the latest issue, she's trying to get Sonic and co to side with her against another force. When Sonic was reluctant, she tries to get Tails to help her by pretending to be all nice and saying that he knows she's still good at core (which is bullshit).

Sally saw right through it of course ♥ Enough is enough.

I'm afraid my brief synopsis isn't enough to show how much of a bitch "Fi" is, but it might at least explain a little of why I dislike her so much ^^;

Date: 2010-05-05 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scatterpants.livejournal.com
Haha! <3 this reminds me that I have to keep reading, I stopped since my other computer crashed... T3T~~

I'll just download everything all over again, <3.

(Way to go sally, I never really liked Fiona that much even if I don't know her that well =W=~~ )

Date: 2010-05-05 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Yes, please do! I need more people who have a clue what I'm talking about when I blather on about Archie Sonic XD;; ♥

And yes, Sally is WIN here :D

Date: 2010-05-05 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scatterpants.livejournal.com
I hardly have a clue! I read it soooo long ago...~ But I remember I got frustrated that the art wasn't that good, and then echidnas... And then the computer crashed, and babai 100+ issues ;_; Since we don't get Archie Sonic here.

And she IS! I usually don't care about Sally, but sometimes she kicks ass~

Date: 2010-05-05 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Yeah, I kinda lost interest with all the Echidna stuff too ^^;; I also can't get issues here very easily, but I do have quite a few either from eBay or via my American fiancée. I have 'em all downloaded from TKA though :)

Sally has her moments. The comics haven't always showed the best side of her, but she's downright awesome here ^^

Date: 2010-05-05 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scatterpants.livejournal.com
heee, i feel a bit racist towards echidnas anyway...;_; I like them... I'm sure now I'd like them more, I read Archie Sonic when I was like...fifteen. XD <3 I do download them from TKA as well,hee~

Ahn, fiancée~;_; that's awesome. My boyfriend (which I do intend to get married to hurr ) lives in the UK, far far away from me, nyah. ;_;

I didn't watch Sonic SATAM because I didn't...have it, OTL. Not in my lifetime, so I always was against Sally and every other girl, I was a very hardcore slasher. I REGRETS. ;_;

Date: 2010-05-05 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
The UK is a place of heartbreak ;_; It's where I am XD;; My fiancée does live with me now, but it took TEN YEARS to get to that stage D: Worth the wait though :3 (Emoticon abuuuuuse!)

I didn't watch SatAM when I was younger, either. Only AoStH. I was actually a Nintendo fanbrat most of my childhood, so I didn't really give SEGA stuff a proper look. Now, of course, I have a house FILLED with SEGA consoles, merchandise, etc. How the times change...

Date: 2010-05-05 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scatterpants.livejournal.com
What got me into Sonic was Sonic Underground. It aired here and it had music, which captivated me -and got me into art. Then I tried buying all the games I could... since my family loves games I ended up at a point getting some games and obsessed over Sonic once more, ~

You're so lucky thouuugh...! I wish I could live with my dear, he's so far away, it's been a month since he left it feels like it was just a dream ;_;


(also my other comment was full of emoticons so YES abuse them I do not mind ;_; )

Date: 2010-05-05 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-terrible.livejournal.com
HAHAHAHA, awesome. XD

Date: 2010-05-05 08:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-05-06 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
I'm still not entirely sure where this apparent hatred stems from...I mean, I don't mean to be condescending, and I wholeheartedly apologize if that is the way I'm coming across.^_^;;

It's just that...well, I don't see why evil, deceptive, manipulative Fiona has to be the real Fiona. It's an invention of Ian Flynn that wasn't originally there...it's retroactive continuity. It's kind of like how Hal Jordan, one of the Green Lanterns, and a hero for decades, suddenly became Parallax and started murdering people left and right back in the early 90's.

Or, to use another example, it's kind of like how, in Frank Miller's All Star Batman and Robin, Bruce Wayne becomes the "God Damn Batman" who laughs like a maniac and tries to feed Dick Grayson rats.

I guess the gist of what I'm getting at is that a single person can take on drastically different personalities if they are written by many people.

Date: 2010-05-06 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
I'm sorry if you don't get it, Blaze. If you don't, there's nothing else I can do.

Date: 2010-05-06 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You hate Fiona because it's an easy source of "kin" drama and because you think, to outsiders, it makes you look more like Tails, or internally reaffirms to you that you're actually Tails. And because she was part of a ship involving Sonic that excludes Tails, and like all possessive, franchise-obsessed yaoi fangirls, you have an irrational, frothing hatred for anything that comes in the way of your ship. One which, non-coincidentally, you think belongs to you IRL. Watching you act like this over a fictional character is ridiculous because it's obvious to anyone without their Delusion Glasses on why you do it.

Date: 2010-05-06 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Okay, if you like. That's entirely possible.

Date: 2010-05-06 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] way-past-cool.livejournal.com
Or it could just be because Fiona's a total bitch. XD For srs. Kin or no kin, when a character like that shows up in any fiction I read it inspires hatred.. cuz it's supposed to. There's really no two ways about it in this case. It's not like Fiona is showing any good traits at this point in time to which you'd give her the benefit of the doubt. You're meant to feel she desrved it -- the screen-caps above affirm that canonically. XD Does that make Jai more or less like Tails? No. You could say Jai's being like Sally if you look at it that way.

And as for Blaze comparing Fiona to other retcons/re-interps, fair enough, go ahead and love the old Fiona (I love the old Batman!) robot or otherwise. But it's the Fiona that double-crossed the FFs, used Sonic and smacked the shit out of Tails that's getting the hate here. You're not meant to like her, and at this point, you're not meant to believe there's anything redeemable left to her.
From: [identity profile] violettsukino.livejournal.com
I hope I didn't sound like I was trolling.^_^;; I think it would make me sound rather insincere to directly say "I'm sorry" a second time, but if there was anything suspicious about what I said, or perhaps the tone of it, feel free to let me know.^_^;;

Jei's explanation helps, at any rate...It makes me more sense to me if the character being discussed is a specific version, rather than all versions at once.

Date: 2010-05-06 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sletia.livejournal.com
Aren't people sick of trying to be a backseat psychiatrist to us by now? Good gravy.

Date: 2010-05-06 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
My favourite part is where anon is accusing me of having a "frothing hatred for anything that comes in the way of [my] ship" when my whole post is about how awesome Sally - Sonic's CANON GIRLFRIEND throughout 95% of the comic - is. Yeah.

Date: 2010-05-06 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sletia.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, there's some major frothing in your posts, isn't there? You're the calmest dude I know. XD

Date: 2010-05-06 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
I think trolls have a one-size-fits-all response to all kin, regardless of whether it actually makes sense. Let's take a look:

>>You hate Fiona because it's an easy source of "kin" drama

I'm so dramatic, ALWAYS talking about mah kin dramus! Oh wait.

>>and because you think, to outsiders, it makes you look more like Tails,

Not really. Canon-Tails doesn't hate Fiona. In fact, he's the MOST forgiving towards her of all, really.

>>or internally reaffirms to you that you're actually Tails.

See above ♥

>>And because she was part of a ship involving Sonic that excludes Tails, and like all possessive, franchise-obsessed yaoi fangirls, you have an irrational, frothing hatred for anything that comes in the way of your ship.

Yeah. Like I said, Sally is Sonic's girlfriend through most of the comics and I still love her to bits ♥

>>One which, non-coincidentally, you think belongs to you IRL.

Nah. I don't care who ships what. Canon doesn't belong to me. Only me belongs to me :)

>>Watching you act like this over a fictional character is ridiculous because it's obvious to anyone without their Delusion Glasses on why you do it.

Except anon, clearly, as we have seen ♥

Date: 2010-05-06 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sletia.livejournal.com
LOL, seriously. We know we sound nuts. At least, I know *I* do. It's just funny that miles away there's this internet Tough Guy who cares enough about what we post about to tell us how crazy we are. I mean, if you're reading this for your own amusement at how crazy we are, fine, but why dignify our craziness with a response?
You know, by this person's logic, I should hate the hell out of Lina Inverse, who single-handedly took down a lot of mazoku, but I actually love her to bits. *shrug*

Date: 2010-05-06 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Fuck yeah I know I sound crazy XD ♥ But it always seems odd how people post to tell us how weird and obsessive we are, without seeming to notice how weird and obsessive they're being by caring about what we say or do and bothering to post about it ^^; Ah well. Crazy attracts crazy I guess.

Date: 2010-05-11 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twitchytwitch.livejournal.com
Sally~ xDDD I never saw her enough displaying personality in the issues I read, sadly.

BUT, SHE SEEMS WONDERFUL. xD

Date: 2010-05-11 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Over time she has become one of my most favourite Archie Sonic characters ♥ I love her so damn much :D

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