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Oh no. I read Archie Sonic #174 today and now I suddenly see EXACTLY what's going to happen. In fact, I'd bet money on it. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy. But Archie is SO damn predictable. I think I can see exactly what's going to tear Sonic and Tails apart and set them against each other, and if I'm right... then any and all possible good things that could come from it are now null and void.

Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. If I'm right, I'll have a hard time ever forgiving that comic :\

There's issue 174 spoilers here I guess. But I'm mainly cutting this for length and rantiness. Because yes, I'm highly opinionated when it comes to my fandom ._.;;


Okay, where to begin?

I guess I can start by summing up #174. Bunnie and Antoine tie the knot, and amazingly, it all goes off without a hitch. Meanwhile, Espio is in the City, collecting evidence on Robotnik's latest scheme. The entire issue has underlying currents of Sonic/Sally, which kind of peeved me because with that and the whole Espio thing, it really took the focus off the happy couple. It had a soap-operatic air of "These two are getting married, but everyone's thinking why aren't these OTHER two typing the knot?". The verbal hints and non-verbal hints were laid on like butter. Poor Bunnie and Antoine clearly weren't the 'feature couple' of this issue, despite their wedding. Heck, the page where they exchanged their vows, the most important part, and placed their wedding rings on each other's fingers... was split in half down the middle to run alongside Espio's story. Now, I totally get that there was supposed to be a contrast... happiness for Bunnie and Antoine vs danger and horror in the City for Espio. But Bunnie and Antoine's wedding was already SO sidelined by the Sonally hints... argh. I'm not happy. They deserved better.

What else was wrong with the issue? Well, Tails continuing to pine over Fiona was... annoying. Shut up already x.x Ahem. But the thing that made everything start to make sense?

Tails' parents.

Bear with me here. I have a STRONG suspicion that Amadeus Prower is going to split off a faction of the Kingdom, and thus turn Tails and Sonic against each other.

Here we go:

King Acorn: The honor is mine.
Amadeus: And _that_, sire, is why I am so optimistic for our great nation.
...
Amadeus: *Offside* Soon you won't have much more power than that, anyway.
Tails: *Approaches* What did you mean by that, dad?
Amadeus: Just that your mother and I have a number of suggestions for the structure of the Kingdom, Tails. New plans to better the lives of everyone in Knothole.

Okay, so added to the fact that Amadeus was looking traditionally 'evil sneaky' during those panels, what are the chances of Archie pulling one of its fabled "IMPOSTER!!1" storylines? So, come on, it's gotta be a) Amadeus isn't actually Amadeus, or b) Amadeus is being controlled by the Xorda, or c) Amadeus has some other allegiance.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this. But I think not. There really wasn't any reason for him to feature much in this issue. Another thing that caught my attention was the dialogue near the beginning where Sonic and Tails are talking about their parents.

Bernadette (Sonic's mom): ...and none of your running! We don't want your clothes all dusty!
Sonic: *Out of earshot of his parents* Are your parents that bad, Tails?
Tails: Worse! And that's why I love 'em!
Sonic: I hear that.

Doesn't seem like much, but it sure looks to me like they're gradually building on the parental allegiance theme.

If this goes the way I think it will, I'll be REALLY angry. Why?

Simple.

The Freedom Fighters were doing a fine job all by themselves for a long time. Then, gradually, all the parents started coming back. Some were rescued, some just found their way back, but at this point, most of the main characters have their families back. Sonic has a mom and dad, and of course his Uncle Chuck. Tails has his mom and dad, who returned from space pretty recently (although he's known they're alive for a little longer).

What gets me is this. Now that the parents are back, these adults pretty much control everything. All of a sudden, the Freedom Fighters are just kids again, having to ask permission to do anything. It doesn't matter how many times they've saved the world... they're just a bunch of teens now who have to do what their elders say. And none of them seem to mind; they're just happy to have their parents back. And that's all very well... but what starts to irk me is when the characters' loyalties default to these adult figures above and beyond their own friends and partners. Sally's a slave to the extremely backwards traditions of the Acorn Royal lineage. Sonic's been arrested numerous times for Freedom Fighting without Royal permission. It just... argh.

Anyway, where is this leading? To this. If Amadeus DOES go AWOL and split the Kingdom, Tails will default to his side. It won't MATTER that he's known Sonic for 12 years and his dad for only a few weeks/months! Now that the parents are back, the 'kids' loyalty will go to them. And if that happens, I will probably be too disgusted to ever read Archie again. If Tails ends up fighting against Sonic because Sonic and Amadeus are members of opposing factions, I will give up hope.

And do know what's kind of worse? If that's what happens, it won't resolve ANYTHING between Sonic and Tails. Because guess what? Tails will end up being in the wrong... and he'll have to end up apologising to Sonic again when it turns out that Amadeus is evil/corrupt/being controlled/blackmailed. And Sonic will be all "It's cool". And it'll just be like it's always been. ... I just... wish for once that SONIC could be wrong. I wish Sonic could eat humble pie for once. I wish Sonic and Tails could have a heart-to-heart and fix their friendship. But I don't think the Archie comics are capable of that much depth or character progression.

I can just see how it'll probably play out. It's so predictable. And I just hope... hope hope hope... that I'm wrong :\

Date: 2007-04-24 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] way-past-cool.livejournal.com
Yep! You know I agree 100%. I really think Amadeus and the Xorda are in it together. The whole thing is just crap. Tails would never listen to a dad he's only known for a little while over Sonic who he's known all his life. x.x;

And Sonic NEEDS to be wrong for once. He can't always get away with being an ass and never apologize, and he can't always be the one who was in the right. Like we said before, as the hero he has a right to win all the battles, but that doesn't mean he's infalable in his personal life too! Ugh.

Stupid half-assed Archie. If they're not gonna try to do something new and unique why don't they just give up already?

It more than Xorda sucks.

Date: 2007-04-24 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teamrodent.livejournal.com
Favre: It's too profitable?

Nitch: Great. Buntoine occurs, and some hack has to foul up the storyline.

Jamie: Yeah, How are Sonic and Tails going to get married NOW?

McGee: Neph-chu, This is Archie Comics we're squeaking about. The paper they're printed on is less bland than their storylines. :p

Date: 2007-04-24 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zuki-chan.livejournal.com
Hmmm... I'm kinda glad I don't read up-to-date-archie... If they have poor Tails suffering even more, and being all, "Omg sorry that I've caused all these problems and conflicts for you Sonic!", that would seriously suck. Because, not only will it have Sonic being the (If I dare to use the term) Gary-stu of Archie again, but it will have Tails still reverting to the baby of the trio. Like, it was all nice to see Tails, great mates with Sonic, and slightly dependant on him... But it's also great to see him being more independant, and separate...
Ah, that's all I can say. Archie annoys me. (Although it makes me slightly happy to hear that they're still using Espio <3)

Date: 2007-04-24 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
EXACTLY ;_; Wow, you hit the nail right on the head. It's EXACTLY that. Sonic is the generic-hero-who-can-do-no-wrong... the Compass of Justice in his heart will always point him true x.x

Ugh. Sonic was MADE to be an imperfect hero... he's impatient, rash, sarcastic, cocky... but somehow the Archie comics ignore any possibility for him to actually make a mistake and have to own up to it :\ And Tails is always so submissive to him...

There WAS one time that Tails recently yelled 'I hate you!' at Sonic, but nothing came of it. Since then he's been as submissive and apologetic as ever. Like when he got held at gunpoint not very long ago, during the Fiona arc, and Sonic had to go do something in order for Tails to be released. And afterwards, Tails was all apologetic for inconveniencing Sonic by being captured(!), and Sonic was just all "It's cool" and then totally ignored Tails and went off with Fiona again.

And yeah, if Tails ends up making another HUGE mistake (by ending up on the wrong side), it'll just secure him as the immature 'baby' of the group again who can't be expected to do the right thing.

I... argh... just... give up x.x

Date: 2007-04-24 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And that's why you should only play the Sonic video games. =P
-Collision Cat

Date: 2007-04-24 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaiba-katt.livejournal.com
=_= I just...can't read Archie comics anymore. I like to stick with SonicX (as problematic as it can be) and the Sonic games. :3 Preferably in japanese. :D

Date: 2007-04-24 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikkicub.livejournal.com
Glad I don't read Archie. T_T TAILS is the clever, kind, sensible one who's (almost) always right against Sonic's arrogance and (often) pride-based stupidity, while Sonic is the self-absorbed, manic 'wild boy' who can't bring himself to admit he's a Nice Guy.

(On the other hand, I'd like to see Buntoine scans pretty please. ^.^)

Date: 2007-04-24 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
I happen to adore Sonic, personally. I think he's a really really great guy with a really good heart and a strong sense of justice. But he isn't perfect, and I wish the comic would reflect that. He often doesn't think before acting, and he can occasionally be a little tactless or over-confident... he's NOT the perfect hero.
Tails isn't perfect either... he has a lot of flaws too. In my personal opinion, possibly more flawed than Sonic, despite his 'intelligence'. But it would be nice if for once Sonic would be the one who'd have to apologise and be 'wrong' instead of Tails. Just to show that their friendship means something... that it means more than the stupid romantic flings that Sonic's always caught up in (*cough*Fiona*cough* x.x), etc.

Date: 2007-04-25 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikkicub.livejournal.com
Oh, I quite agree. I like them both... but... the Archie versions seem so... flat. Not 'them' at all. I wasn't kidding when I said it lost the charm of SatAM.

Date: 2007-04-25 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rontufox.livejournal.com
Ha ha, I'm a hardcore SatAM fan and stopped reading Archie at around 100ish. I'd pick up one from the racks from time to time just to peek in and see how it was doing. Now I ignore its existence... I know they were trying to pull in a different kind of conflict than just the normal "oh, we gotta fight this war and defeat this enemy", and so they went with inner conflict in the freedom fighter team... which was... a horrible mistake... the whole point has been that they're inseperable and loyal and together... I mean, I can understand SOME inner conflict, but only everyday stuff, not all this over-the-top soap opera crud. And all this pulling apart of the closest bonds ever established... Sonic and Sally, and Sonic and Tails... it's just so dumb!

"Hey guys! Let's make inner conflict and shake the very foundations of everyone's bonds by making the characters do and say things they would never do in a hundred babillion years!! YEAH!!! That makes so much sense!!"

Any scriptor knows that what makes a story interesting is the different way characters react. Establish characters and their personalities solidly, and then when something happens, they will act accordingly. You don't MAKE characters act a certain way to make the story go whatever way you want it. What the heck is the point of individual characters if you do that?!

Yeah, sorry, I'm kinda hardcore... and angry... why Sonic...whyyyy!

Date: 2007-04-25 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
y hullo thar!

... ^^; Glad to see someone else feeling the same way. Archie is just one big soap-opera really. They've totally twisted the characters just to try to squeeze every possible drop of angst that they can get, because that comic thrives on angst. As long as there's drama, it doesn't matter how out of character everyone has to act in order to create that drama.

And don't worry, hardcore and angry is gooood. At least, I justify myself that way. XD;

Date: 2007-04-25 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rontufox.livejournal.com
LOL! thanks. I saw you comment on my sister's journal so I went to yours. Hooray for old school Sonic fans!

Date: 2007-04-25 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyboy-fox.livejournal.com
Indeed ^^ *high five!*
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